The popularity of the following posting prompted a response.
AbbaGav "Treppenwitz has an absolute must read, which I don't want to quote for fear you won't read the whole thing."
Big Lizards "Hugh Hewitt read this post by David Bogner on the air Thursday, and I thought it was one of the best parables I've heard in years. I urgently urge y'all to read the whole thing; it's not that long, but..."
David Bogner at Treppenwitz uses a parable as an analogy that is used to justify that "This is one time an Arab aggressor must be allowed to be beaten so badly that every civilized nation will stand in horror....." My response follows the story. I suggest reading his full post at the permalink provided.
Sunday, July 16, 2006
A difficult lesson
When I was in the Navy, I once witnessed a bar fight in downtown Olongapo (Philippines) that still haunts my dreams. The fight was between a big oafish Marine and a rather soft-spoken, medium sized Latino sailor from my ship.
All evening the Marine had been trying to pick a fight with one of us and had finally set his sights on this diminutive shipmate of mine... figuring him for a safe target. When my friend refused to be goaded into a fight the Marine sucker punched him from behind on the side of the head so hard that blood instantly started to pour from this poor man's mutilated ear.
Everyone present was horrified and was prepared to absolutely murder this Marine, but my shipmate quickly turned on him and began to single-handedly back him towards a corner with a series of stinging jabs and upper cuts that gave more than a hint to a youth spent boxing in a small gym in the Bronx.

Each punch opened a cut on the Marine's startled face and by the time he had been backed completely into the corner he was blubbering for someone to stop the fight. He invoked his split lips and chipped teeth as reasons to stop the fight. He begged us to stop the fight because he could barely see through the river of blood that was pouring out of his split and swollen brows.
Nobody moved. Not one person.
The only sound in the bar was the sickening staccato sound of this sailor's lightning fast fists making contact with new areas of the Marine's head. The only sound I have heard since that was remotely similar was from the first Rocky film when Sylvester Stallone was punching sides of beef in the meat locker.
Finally the Marine's pleading turned to screams.... a high, almost womanly shriek. And still the punches continued relentlessly.
Several people in the bar took a few tentative steps as though they wanted to try to break it up at that point, but hands reached out from the crowd and held them tight. I'm not ashamed to say that mine were two of the hands that held someone back.
You see, in between each blow the sailor had begun chanting a soft cadence: "Say [punch] you [punch] give [punch] up [punch]... say [punch] you [punch]were [punch] wrong [punch]".
He had been repeating it to the Marine almost from the start but we only became aware of it when the typical barroom cheers had died down and we began to be sickened by the sight and sound of the carnage.
This Marine stood there shrieking in the corner of the bar trying futilely to block the carefully timed punches that were cutting his head to tatters... right down to the skull in places. But he refused to say that he gave up... or that he was wrong.
Even in the delirium of his beating he believed in his heart that someone would stop the fight before he had to admit defeat. I'm sure this strategy had served him well in the past and had allowed him to continue on his career as a barroom bully.
Finally, in a wail of agony the Marine shrieked "I give up", and we gently backed the sailor away from him.
I'm sure you can guess why I have shared this story today.
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Posted by David Bogner on July 16, 2006 | Permalink
“He who aspires to paradise should learn
to deal with people with kindness.”
Abu Bakr
“Spare the rod spoil the child.”
I recall the son that cowered in the presence of his domineering Father. The futility of his situation drove an inner rage that he could not express without fear of reprisal. He acted out these frustrations through disobedient acts of a
rebellious nature. Lying, stealing and the malicious damage of other's property became his forte. He was a delinquent whose emotional quotient was primarily driven by schadenfreude towards his father and humanity in general. Some called him a bully.
How poignant it is that we live in a society where delinquents flourish. How distressing that they conduct violent acts with impunity against innocents. How terrifying that rather than subduing these forces, we respond with rage and want to murder them. How should we act to change a society that lacks compassion and/or empathy for others?

"The world is a dangerous place to live
not because of the people who are evil,
but because of the people who don't do
anything about it."
Albert Einstein
Some attribute the quotation "spare the rod and spoil the child" to the Bible; in fact, it comes from a poem by Samuel Butler. The Bible verse itself reads, "He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him. Proverbs 13:24 (NIV)" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanking
The ironic thing is that this poem is supposedly, "a burlesque satire on Puritanism." Wikipedia says "The closest analogy in the present day to the meaning of "Puritan" in the 17th century would be 'fundamentalist'" http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Puritan
"Is it possible that our children are learning violence across their mommy's and daddy's knees in the name of love, and done in the best interests of the child, with approving nods from the religious and educational establishments-even the courts- while all of us abhor rioting, terrorism, street crime, capital punishment and any form of torture, brutality, and human inhumanity?"
“Butler's burlesque poem portrayed the Puritans as obnoxious nuisances whose hypocrisy and stupidity needed to be exposed. Inadvertently, however, Butler popularized for us, three hundred years later, an aphorism taken literally today by more orthodox descendents of his antipathy.”
A lot more interesting material on the subject at:
Theology Today - Vol 37, No. 4 - January 1981 - ARTICLE - Spanking Hurts Everybody
The school of hard knocks: Learning through difficult experiences. An early training in the school of hard knocks was good preparation for a career in politics.
Cambridge International Dictionary of Idioms
Damnation University - School of Hard Knocks
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